Marriage Equality is the subject for today in the party rooms. They will, hopefully, be discussing Dean Smith’s private member’s bill and, hopefully, they will approve it for discussion and a vote in parliament.
The government is crazy if they think they can survive NOT putting this forward. It has gone on long enough, over 20 bills have been put forward and rejected over the last 10 or so years. This is an inevitability they must face. They can either be the party that lead the way to marriage equality in Australia, or they can get out of the way at the next election.
For those who worry about the religious exemptions in the bill fear not for two reason:
The gays are just being added to a long list of exemptions that already exist for clergy. They currently are exempt from having to marry people who have differing faiths, from themselves or from each other, divorcees, and even people they don’t think should be married. They can currently just say, nope, I don’t think you’re right for each other, I’m not going to be the one to marry you. So we gays are just being added to a list that already exists, they aren’t making a new one.
The churches will come around, and likely quite quickly. Their numbers are falling, the are bolstering them with rhetoric about the evils of the gays and their abhorrent lifestyle “choice”. But they are fighting a losing battle. Sure the Biebs and other music, and the brainwashing is bringing folks to Hillsong. But that can’t save the dying ideology that is structured religion.
We know the churches will come around because they need the money and because we have historic precedent… black people and the church. The church was a driver behind segregation and preventing inter-racial marriage, but these days it’s mostly nothing to them. They embrace black culture and in the US the African American community have weird, in my opinion, embraced the church… the teachings of which once and continues to drive the KKK and other white supremacists.
So let’s not fear the religious exemptions as they exist in the bill. Let’s get married and let the church sort itself out. We don’t need them any more now than we did yesterday.
It’s time to join the new world of liberty and equality for all.
“It is something that evolved many centuries ago to protect women and children in a world where they were much less secure than they are now. That’s why I would be very reluctant to change.”
And I might remind you, he’s talking about the times, centuries ago, when women and children were chattel to be bartered for (or bought), wives readily beaten for not obeying their husbands, and children were often forced to work in horrid conditions, sometimes as indentured servants.
I can promise you that no woman will be less secure by me marrying a man… no woman will even be involved in the union, so Tony, you’ve got nothing to worry about there my good chap. And I’m pretty sure if two women choose to marry then they’ll be as in love as any heterosexual couple and certainly won’t be going out of their way to make themselves less “secure”.
As far as children… as with all same-sex parented families, it’s a minuscule chance a child will come into them by accident. These children are most often planned for with their wellbeing and upbringing in mind. No same-sex family is the result of an “accident”. Those kids will be pretty secure, as long as you get out of the way and let them be them. Stop telling them there’s something wrong about their families.
YAY finally the No Religion is the largest group of folk according the to new census data released today. Now if only we were so easy to mobilise as the religious folk we could convince the nation’s politicians they don’t need to pander to the religious folks so much to get the votes.
“I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburg, not Paris.”
It’s true, you can’t make this shit up, when I first saw this quote reported I had to go and find more sources to see if it was real… I thought George W was the dumbest president that ever existed but here we have it folks a gold star moron who believes he is in charge of the world.
From literally shoving other world leaders out of the way to be at the front of a photo to clearly not understanding that the Paris Accord was just SIGNED in Paris it wasn’t just for the people of Paris.
And to follow it up with “I’m confident that our states, cities and businesses will step up and do even more to lead the way and help protect for future generations the one planet we’ve got,” well were that true then there would be no issues and ‘sanctions’ to worry about, you’d be ahead of your targets.
I just can’t today… I did like the one tweet I saw in response that said something along the lines of… “Don’t do it to save the Earth, do it to save us, the Earth will survive & thrive once we’re gone.”
I’m often perplexed by the folks that are against foreign aid, they are against immigration, and they are against refugees… you can’t have it all.
First and foremost we are all human… let that sink in.
Right, now we have that in place. Sometimes we all need a helping hand. We see it in our communities ALL THE TIME and it’s wonderful and it’s amazing. When the Good Friday Appeal is on, people put their hands in their pockets and give up their hard-earned cash to support people they will never know. When there’s a sick kid in the community the community pitches in and helps with the costs. They feel good about doing it because they are doing good. We do it because it feels good to help and because it feels right to help others in need.
So, foreign aid… it, in theory, should go directly to helping those in need in other countries. It also helps other countries get on board with new ways of doing things to make the world as a whole a better place. Is there corruption that is eating away at some of this money, probably, but there is hope that most of it is going to improve the lives of many.
Immigration… the way folks come here through the “proper channels” has been the lifeblood of our country since European settlement. We are indeed a melting pot nation and I believe we’re better off for it.
Refugees… are people fleeing their lives that were appalling. In Syria for example the world looked at what was going on there and the response was to bomb the crap out of the place, which their own government has already been doing for over five years. People should always be embraced when they are looking for a better life. They look to make their lives better and in doing so they can make our lives better too.
When faced with aggression and oppression these people are likely to withdraw from the society they find themselves in, they won’t interact and they won’t feel safe or wanted. This will breed animosity which will become cyclic and will spiral into an us and them that may never be resolved.
One way to “get rid of the refugees” would be to support foreign aid that is going towards resolving the issues in the countries they are coming from and helping make their lives better there.
We are all human and we need to remember that all the time. Who seriously has all this time for hate? Let’s embrace humanity and let’s be better for it.
Poor guy, dumped for saying out loud what is likely true for most of the major-party politicians. While his choice of scenario was inappropriate, he was basically saying what we all know to be true… most politicians will forever abandon their own principles if it means getting more for themselves.
We have Malcolm Turnbull as a prime example… threw away his stance on renewables, marriage equality, carbon emission policy, broadband, etc, etc, etc, to become Prime Minister.
Of course the Young LNP likely were afraid of the headlines, like the one that accompanied the article from which the section below was taken… “‘I would be a Nazi Party member’: University of Queensland LNP Club president writes, before being booted” they’re quoting him saying the first part without the “despite obviously opposing a lot of their core ideology” and the title of the page just reads “‘I would have been a Nazi’: Kurt Tucker”.
I’m all for the downfall of the LNP, even the Young LNP, but I’m totally against reporting that is just stupidly paraphrased for the headlines. I don’t believe he should have been dumped, I think his party should have stood behind him and said “In context what he said is true…” but yes, he did pick a poor example.
He could have just said “I totally would do what Malcolm Turnbull has done, abandon my principles to get ahead in the party and to secure that sweet, sweet pension and million dollar speaking engagements (while still collecting the sweet sweet pension and travelling on the public dime).” Same thing, more palatable example.
The Young LNP scrambled to distance itself from Kurt Tucker, the leader of its University of Queensland chapter, after the politically ambitious student made a Facebook post saying he would have joined the Nazi Party if he had lived in 1930s Germany.
“I openly accept I would be a Nazi Party member if this was 30s Germany, despite obviously opposing a lot of their core ideology,” he wrote.
“I’m political, and to succeed in politics, public service military or even industry, you had to be a NSDAP member.
“I also believe 90% of ALP and LNP members would be the same.”
I implore you to listen to this ongoing podcast series “Better Off Dead” from Andrew Denton and the Wheeler Centre.
A sometimes uncomfortable topic, Assisted Death, is a subject we need to have a real and informed conversation about.
Andrew Denton and his team have done the research and eloquently present the facts with stories from real people who have been directly affected by this topic, including Andrew himself.
You may not think it given the subject matter, but there are times you’ll laugh, and quite likely times you’ll cry, but you’ll come out the other side better informed.
Don’t listen to the BS of the detractors. Assisted death is something we should have for those who are terminally ill and/or suffering in a way that can not be relieved. We need to give them the option to control their own lives and deaths.
Again, please listen to the podcast series and then we can talk about it and talk to our politicians about it and let them know we support an individual’s right to life on their terms.